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Don't have an exact birth time?

Updated: Feb 13


Astrologer Anthony Louis posted an interesting article on his blog where he analyzed a specific event in a person’s life without the birth time and he had calculated the birth time by taking the sunrise at that particular place where the native was born. Shortly after reading it, I read another interesting article by Seven Stars astrology and the chart used in that article also did not have an exact birth time but the author had depicted the ways of identifying some of the core factors of a chart by using the 12th parts. After checking out these two interesting pieces, I was motivated to write one myself by mixing both the techniques. In this short piece, I am going to use the sunrise time to cast the chart of Swedish activist Greta Thunberg and will use the 12th parts, bounds and secondary progressions to see how revealing they can be in terms of helping us get a fair outline of a chart without the birth time.


Anthony's Article

Seven Stars Astrology article

Sunrise chart of Greta Thunberg

Greta Thunberg is known for her fearlessness in speaking with a straight forward attitude which put her in sudden limelight and fame. In the natal wheel, we can see that Mercury (Rx) is posited in its own bound of Capricorn. However, Capricorn is a sign gives importance to traditionalism and conservatism despite emphasizing pragmatism. However, in the secondary progressed chart, we see that Mercury (Rx) had moved a long way back into Sagittarius there by describing the native’s concern for the global environment. Mercury is posited in Aquarius by 12th parts which is yet another indication of the fact that the native is gearing up for change and voicing it without any hesitation.


Moon, by 12th part in Virgo reinstates the fact that this native is giving shape to something that really did not have much shape before. Awareness about climate change was already prevailing the difference is, Greta Thunberg took the world by storm as Mercury (natal) is in trine with the Moon in Virgo (12th part).


Sun, by 12th part is placed in Cancer. Cancer is where natal Jupiter is placed. An exalted Jupiter connected to the Sun (12th parts) is a testimony of the vision that the native had at such a young age towards the improvement of global environmental conditions. Mercury and Jupiter are in opposition and see what Robert Hand has to say about this configuration in his Planets in Transit (Pg: 157, published by Whitford Press).


This transit frequently coincides with a period of good feeling and an optimistic outlook on life. It is definitely one of the pleasant oppositions. If you exercise some care, it will be very helpful for all kinds of contractual negotiations, conferences, planning sessions and discussions.

So, this almost looks like a literal manifestation when we look at the event that happened in the native’s life. Mercury's involvement indicates the young age and exalted Jupiter’s association strengthens the communication and makes it sound as if the native knows what she is saying. Well, she really knew what she was saying!.


Progressed Sun made a significant move from Sagittarius to Capricorn when she was 12 which was when Greta Thunberg was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome. Mercury (Rx) is very powerful because a planet in retrograde motion will have the maximum Chesta Bala (Strength gained through the motion) which makes the planet more focussed in that particular walk of life. Don’t miss to notice the sign based square that Mars will form with the progressed Sun and natal Mercury (Rx). See what Greate Thunberg told in TEDx talk about her condition:


"I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, OCD and selective mutism. That basically means I only speak when I think it's necessary. Now is one of those moments."

TEDx talk, Stockholm, November 2018


This proves that she did not attend and speak at the 2018 United Nations Climate Change conference by chance and it was certainly coming! By the time the native spoke at the United Nations Climate Change Conference, the progressed Sun was exactly conjunct the natal Mercury (Rx) thereby marking the speech as one of the highlights in the history of the United Nations.


Mars is strongly placed by bound and also by decan. Mars is placed in the 3rd decan of Leo which is Aries and Mars is placed in its own bound of Leo. This makes the native a hardcore fighter for the rights in the path of Dharma which is quite inspiring. Lot of fortune in Jupiter’s bound and decan of Sagittarius establishes the notion of this native’s battle for nature in the path of righteousness!


There are probably many things to say but I am finishing it here and leaving for you to experiment if you think it is fun exploring. With this post, I am not at all saying that we can do astrology without the time. But, this is just an experimental post out of fascination and it is always good to do astrology with exact birth time.


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